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12:36 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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How do you know the wearer has contributed to the cause firstly because from what I hear individuals, about to go on screen, have a poppy dotted to them?
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Up The Iron
12:33 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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, 12:06 Sat Oct 31
"Wearing a poppy, when on TV, is a form of virtue signalling to me."
Wearing a poppy can never by definition be virtue signalling. The poppy wearer has actually contributed to a good cause whereas virtue signallers merely spout, "Look at me", without actually performing any virtuous act.
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12:31 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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I remember a few battles outside the Merry Fiddlers. how do they rank?
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Far Cough
12:28 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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Ashdown?
Strange battle to mention before many more memorable ones
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WHOicidal Maniac
12:16 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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ironsofcanada 11:52 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
"are you saying recognizing people fighting in it is a bad thing if they are not connected to you."
Im saying that no one should feel obligated to wear a symbol of an organisation/charity if they dont want to. I only do it because of my connection, as do most.
People used to do it a lot more when I was younger as those boys who made it back from WW1 were still alive. Now we have a generation who dont even breathe the same air as the people who fought in WW1 and in 10 years the WW2 vets will be gone as well.
They have to keep this national observance going and now that can only be done through education, but thats just another page in history, next to Agincourt and Waterloo. The only way to keep this national day of respect going in the future is through social pressure.
We no longer 'remember' the war dead of the Peninsular campaign, Balaclava or Ashdown, They have passed in to history as well they should.
If my people like Grandfather thought that their sacrifices and that of their friends meant that people of future generations were obligated to do these things out of duty rather than desire, they would say that the time has come to let history do the remembering and for the living to just to enjoy the benefits of the deads labour.
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12:06 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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Wearing a poppy, when on TV, is a form of virtue signalling to me.
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Pub Bigot
12:03 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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I think her reasoning is fair enough. Before blowing a trumpet about her being disrespectful etc, I googled her reasons why she doesn't wear a poppy on air and they're sound.
Firstly she doesn't wear a poppy while broadcasting because she says she's involved with many charities including the Royal British Legion but isn't allowed to show support on air so feels it isn't right to support one charity over all the others. Secondly she does wear a poppy off air and fully supports the poppy appeal and the Britsh Legion.
So she's not doing anything wrong and as s huge supporter of our forces, I back her decision.
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11:56 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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As long as we don't end up living in a country where the sporting of a rememberance poppy is compulsory what's to worry about?
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HairyHammer
11:55 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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This is a great country indeed Remember that, her right to think as she wishes to think is what soldiers fought and still fight for today, otherwise we might as well be Iran or Zimbabwe.
I do not care what others do I think and live for me, she wears the poppy outside of work and she also gives to the poppy charity that is good enough for me.
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ironsofcanada
11:52 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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WHOicidal Maniac 11:44 Sat Oct 31
In the truest sense, all war is sad (and is in some way fought for people's financial interest) but are you saying recognizing people fighting in it is a bad thing if they are not connected to you.
Honestly trying to understand what you mean.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:44 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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ironsofcanada 11:33 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
WHOicidal Maniac 11:26 Sat Oct 31
I agree with some of your points, people fought so we can but also don't have to do things like this, though you will have to explain what is sad about this.
"Now its to honour the Dead of all wars . The sad thing about it is that under this new idea, there are children who aint even born yet that this poppy will represent."
There are children not yet born who will go to war to die because of other peoples financial interest...Then this poppy will represent their death. I find that sad.
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1964
11:39 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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At first reading this I was OUTRAGED but then I thought I don't wear one either.
But then again I'm not on telly where you are in the public eye and whether you like it or not there are certain conforming standars to upkeep.
Clive Myrie on BBC wears one.
So I'm OUTRAGED!
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ironsofcanada
11:33 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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WHOicidal Maniac 11:26 Sat Oct 31
I agree with some of your points, people fought so we can but also don't have to do things like this, though you will have to explain what is sad about this.
"Now its to honour the Dead of all wars . The sad thing about it is that under this new idea, there are children who aint even born yet that this poppy will represent."
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Mr Polite
11:31 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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I have no idea who she is and she may well be a vile woman but surely wearing a poppy or not is a personal choice. I find it a tad pathetic that people get upset and angry when people refuse to wear one.
On another note, I went to school with a girl called Sharleen Black and she was a white girl. No idea if she wears a poppy though
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peroni
11:28 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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I don't care who has usurped it.
It's about the war dead.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:26 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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peroni 11:10 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
Maniac
It's about remembering the war dead - it's that simple.
I know what its for. Its a good cause and one I donate to.
The issue is that the Poppy has been usurped as some sort of National symbol of the Armed forces and instead of the original meaning,
First it was 'Armistice day' to commemorate the war dead for WW1.
Then it was for 'Remembrance Day' to include the Soldiers of WW2
Now its to honour the Dead of all wars . The sad thing about it is that under this new idea, there are children who aint even born yet that this poppy will represent.
People get all patriotic about it and start chest thumping but it was for all the commonwealth and even the USA have it, although its rare.
I wear my poppy, I wear it for my Grandads who survived but suffered nonetheless. I wear it for their mates who didnt make it back. I dont wear it because Im forced to of feel social pressure to conform. I have a connection to it.
Why should someone who doesnt have a connection to the war dead need to wear one, and since when did this become a fascist state in which it was mandatory for people to wear an emblem just to make you feel better?
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wrighty
11:10 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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Nicey
As you're fully aware they're two separate charities. Not sure what arrogant point you're trying to make about the RBL here.
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peroni
11:10 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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Maniac
It's about remembering the war dead - it's that simple.
Anyone who looks beyond that to make a fucking political point is a cunt of the highest order, which you regularly demonstrate you are.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:08 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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peroni 10:56 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
It's really quite simple - anyone in this country, who refuses to wear a poppy is a cunt. Typical of the snidey liberal tossers to excuse her.
You dont half talk some shit...
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Nicey
11:07 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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Do the wealthy business leaders of help for heroes get any money for their bonuses from this?
Don't question, just give!
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peroni
10:56 Sat Oct 31
Re: Sharleen white
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It's really quite simple - anyone in this country, who refuses to wear a poppy is a cunt. Typical of the snidey liberal tossers to excuse her.
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